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Andrew V's avatar

Kasparov, as a Ukrainian-American I am a fan of both your political work and your illustrious career, but one specific line from this piece echoes the sentiments, in my view, that directly led to the catastrophe which was American involvement in the Middle East post 9/11. “If you are worried about innocent people being killed, as Rhodes claims to be, spare a thought for the millions of Iranians who face imprisonment, torture, or death if they dare deviate from the strict precepts of the Islamic Revolution.” I am in no way a moral relativist, and I revile state led religious extremism, with Islamism being, unfortunately , at the forefront of some of the most vile human rights abuses in modern history. This being said, this is exactly the type of slop that was shoveled into American’s heads from the Bush administration in partially justifying militarily involvement in the Middle East, framing it as a global struggle for freedom, liberation, especially that of the women in Iraq and Afghanistan (https://naapr.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/saving_muslim_women-_feminism_u.s_policy_and_the_war_on_terror_-_university_of_san_francisco_usf.pdf). Unless you opt for a complete occupation, you cannot and will not externally end the human rights abuses that Iranian citizens face (I wrote a piece about the role of militarily occupations earlier this year for anyone interested) and suggesting so is a slap in the face to the Iranian civilians which have already and will continue to suffer under Israeli bombs. The question for you is how morally culpable is a civilian population, especially a suppressed one like in Iran, to the actions of its government. Further, I think there is one other line of reasoning which connects the current conflict with Iran and American justification for Iraq: how long has Iran supposedly been on the precipice of nuclear strength? I looked it up the other day, the first American report that Iran was approaching weapons grade uranium was 1989, I believe. 36 years and they still aren’t nuclear capable (unlike Israel, I should mention if your concern is staying within the boundaries of international law regarding nukes). To me, this smells of the justification in Iraq, supposed WMDs which were never found, and appeals to human rights abuses there. We must stop repeating history.

Conor Gallogly's avatar

War can clearly change circumstances in massive, quick, and/or unpredictable ways. It just happened in Syria last year for example.

This attack by Israel may be one of the times in which more war brings positive benefits. Iran was already weakened by Israel smashing its proxies, it’s loathed by its neighbors, and its drones kill Ukrainians every night. The Iranian government is an enemy of the US and ally of Putin so hurting Iran is often helpful.

And Netanyahu mostly takes the short-sighted and immoral choice. Support Hamas to weaken the PLO - check. Expand illegal settlements - check. Avoid a hostage deal in order to keep fighting in Gaza - check. Continue fighting in Lebanon even after destroying Hezbollah leadership - check. Kill the Oct 7 attack’s leaders and continue to bomb children - check.

All these aim to ensure Palestinians never have a state which is both immoral and short sighted because it means Israel will always be at war. So with the attack on Iran I am cautious about hoping when I don’t trust Israel’s goals.

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