I am from Chicago, where the motto has been for some decades vote early and vote often, so you’ll never convince me that there was no fraud in the 2020 election or any other election, probably in the history of humanity.
The SAVE act would enhance the integrity of our elections, at least at the federal level. I find it hard to understand why Democrats wouldn’t want to do that. Do they have something to hide?
Proof of election fraud is rare. President Trump's call to the Georgia Secretary of State, however, is proof of attempted election fraud, although he only asked for 11,000 votes.
In President Trump's case, the rejoinder when trading insults in grade school seems apt, "It takes one to know one."
The Save act ads unnecessary friction and obstacles and setbacks to the process of voting and that is exactly what DJT wants to do. There is no need for the SAVE act in a world where there is a smooth operating system that has integrity already and an insignificant amount of errors or fraud in it.
Often a large election ends up with one or two cases of election fraud. Were any of these elections decided by these one or two cases? The SAVE act is designed to deny the vote to citizens who don't have a drivers license or a passport. This set of citizens skews toward the poorer ones. This is all intentional, and you see through it as well as any of us.
If you find one cockroach, be assured there are more. If there's no fraud, why are Democrats so scared of implementing a common-sense reform that will prove it?
Among Jesus' twelve apostles, one betrayed him. That's roughly 8 percent. The documented cases of voter fraud are infinitesimally smaller than 8 percent.
One or two cases 🤣? You’re obviously not from Chicago. Of course we’ve turned so blue. They don’t even have to cheat anymore, but now the machine games are between mainstream Democrats and the DSA, so I actually find myself supporting the mainstream Democrats for lack of a better alternative, showing the cleanest shirt from a filthy, stinking laundry.
What I fail to understand about Democrats is that if they are so certain there’s no fraud, why are they against common-sense reforms to establish that fact beyond any reasonable shadow of doubt? I think it’s pretty condescending for Democrats to argue that their voters are either too lazy, stupid, or incompetent to have a driver's license or state ID card to present when they register and when they show up to vote. The same could be done with remote voting by mail—to get a mail and ballot, folks could simply have to verify their identity the same way I do when I apply for a job or a credit card. Those who don’t have access to a computer can go to the library.
Democrat opposition to voter ID tells me that they’ve got something to hide, and I think that’s what most people, other than partisan hacks, believe. So long as they refuse to go along with sensible safeguards against voter fraud, there will continue to be aspersions cast on the integrity of our elections. Those who wish to preserve democracy should be very concerned about that regardless of what side of the aisle they’re on.
So the cheaters lost every election this year? It’s probably part of the conspiracy isn’t it? 😂 there’s been many court cases and no fraud has been found. You all stick to your crazy conspiracies like they’re the lifeblood of your being. Get out more
If you're going to mention foxes guarding the hen house, it's best not to leave out the enormous gap between the three Republican branches of government (especially the judicial) and the two roller-coaster democratically controlled branches.
That said, my own recommendation is that people pray for ALL politicians - but for their souls, not their ambitions.
I agree, and it has some flaws. Lisa Murkowski wrote a good op-ed in the Wall Street Journal about some of them. However, I think the Republicans should pursue it as long as they have the power to do so because the sooner, the better.
Evan, this is an important article, and I enjoyed it very much. The question it does not fully answer is why so many people support Trump's positions (or Putin's positions in Russia, or Orban's in Hungary until recently). I want to propose a simple model why democracies are vulnerable to "hostile takeovers" even during good times (like US in 2016):
I am from Chicago, where the motto has been for some decades vote early and vote often, so you’ll never convince me that there was no fraud in the 2020 election or any other election, probably in the history of humanity.
The SAVE act would enhance the integrity of our elections, at least at the federal level. I find it hard to understand why Democrats wouldn’t want to do that. Do they have something to hide?
Proof of election fraud is rare. President Trump's call to the Georgia Secretary of State, however, is proof of attempted election fraud, although he only asked for 11,000 votes.
In President Trump's case, the rejoinder when trading insults in grade school seems apt, "It takes one to know one."
The Save act ads unnecessary friction and obstacles and setbacks to the process of voting and that is exactly what DJT wants to do. There is no need for the SAVE act in a world where there is a smooth operating system that has integrity already and an insignificant amount of errors or fraud in it.
Are you willing to swear under oath that there is no election fraud?
Often a large election ends up with one or two cases of election fraud. Were any of these elections decided by these one or two cases? The SAVE act is designed to deny the vote to citizens who don't have a drivers license or a passport. This set of citizens skews toward the poorer ones. This is all intentional, and you see through it as well as any of us.
If you find one cockroach, be assured there are more. If there's no fraud, why are Democrats so scared of implementing a common-sense reform that will prove it?
Among Jesus' twelve apostles, one betrayed him. That's roughly 8 percent. The documented cases of voter fraud are infinitesimally smaller than 8 percent.
I find your logic fascinating.
One or two cases 🤣? You’re obviously not from Chicago. Of course we’ve turned so blue. They don’t even have to cheat anymore, but now the machine games are between mainstream Democrats and the DSA, so I actually find myself supporting the mainstream Democrats for lack of a better alternative, showing the cleanest shirt from a filthy, stinking laundry.
What I fail to understand about Democrats is that if they are so certain there’s no fraud, why are they against common-sense reforms to establish that fact beyond any reasonable shadow of doubt? I think it’s pretty condescending for Democrats to argue that their voters are either too lazy, stupid, or incompetent to have a driver's license or state ID card to present when they register and when they show up to vote. The same could be done with remote voting by mail—to get a mail and ballot, folks could simply have to verify their identity the same way I do when I apply for a job or a credit card. Those who don’t have access to a computer can go to the library.
Democrat opposition to voter ID tells me that they’ve got something to hide, and I think that’s what most people, other than partisan hacks, believe. So long as they refuse to go along with sensible safeguards against voter fraud, there will continue to be aspersions cast on the integrity of our elections. Those who wish to preserve democracy should be very concerned about that regardless of what side of the aisle they’re on.
So the cheaters lost every election this year? It’s probably part of the conspiracy isn’t it? 😂 there’s been many court cases and no fraud has been found. You all stick to your crazy conspiracies like they’re the lifeblood of your being. Get out more
The courts found a handful of isolated cases, IIRC.
You don't. The courts must rely on the fox to guard the hen house. Common-sense voter ID reform would restore integrity to our elections.
If you're going to mention foxes guarding the hen house, it's best not to leave out the enormous gap between the three Republican branches of government (especially the judicial) and the two roller-coaster democratically controlled branches.
That said, my own recommendation is that people pray for ALL politicians - but for their souls, not their ambitions.
It should have been introduced as soon as Trump took office. It’s far too late now to get it done by November.
I agree, and it has some flaws. Lisa Murkowski wrote a good op-ed in the Wall Street Journal about some of them. However, I think the Republicans should pursue it as long as they have the power to do so because the sooner, the better.
Guillermo, you are embarrassingly lost to your chosen blindness.
It couldn’t be implemented before November.
Get educated!!!!! The SAVE act could take away a lot of women’s right to vote. Read up on it for god’s sake. U just let Trump get away w lies
Evan, this is an important article, and I enjoyed it very much. The question it does not fully answer is why so many people support Trump's positions (or Putin's positions in Russia, or Orban's in Hungary until recently). I want to propose a simple model why democracies are vulnerable to "hostile takeovers" even during good times (like US in 2016):
https://substack.com/chat/9385178/post/4ca03e52-6f96-4cb5-a3e4-52439fe2868b