I think a lot of Americans of the democratic persuasion will misinterpret what this election meant in both Hungary and how it translates to American. It wasn’t usa democratic liberals. It was a vote for the rule of law. For less corruption and more euro and less Russia. It wasn’t liberal American style progressivism. As you say still very anti immigration but even Denmark is tough on immigration and while not pro Ukrainian they want the 20 B euro 💶 and said will not block an EU loan 💸 if not participate. So a good day for Hungary and the world
People just don’t uncontrolled immigration. There may be a few people who don’t care but it’s a recipe for electing illiberal populists like Trump and Orban.
Agree. Even Bernie Sanders said if you don’t have borders you don’t have a country. You need borders and rules of entry and departure or you are not a country
unfortunately, the dems are currently involved in an internal fight about whether they should campaign with hasan piker, a guy who says america deserved 9/11 and that the CCP is the world's best model government. so, i am not sanguine about their tactical approach.
What is your problem with immigration, Gary? They let you stay in the US, didn't they? On what grounds? And who was the president who let you stay? And yes, no human being is illegal. You can have borders and a nation and you can have a welcoming but sensible immigration process. Just like the one we had under every president before Trump, including Obama. So that poor people and refugees fleeing bombs and famine, including from Ukraine BTW, don't have to drown in the Rio Grande or be hunted down and shot like animals in the desert. What we have never had and don't have is open borders. That's a GOP trope. In fact more immigrants were deported during Obama's and Biden's time than during Trump's regime, because things were done by law and order, not by fear and chaos. Now we have Alligator Alcatraz where people disappear, thanks to the type of "actual conservatives" that you evidently espouse.
As far as Hungarians, yes, they are indeed right of center, hard headed, racist and misogynistic. I have worked with people from all over the world and can confirm. Maybe that's why they chose an "actual conservative". As long as they stay within their borders, oppose Putin and don't obstruct the European integration, we don't need their "conservative" example here in USA.
I think he is expressing an opinion on culture, not immigration, and is touching on the rising tensions in Europe and the USA over foreigners and gypsies. In the USA, I think it's more about jobs, and the occasional screw-up, drunk kid that murders or rapes. More like the problem of our Marines in Okinawa, where one incident can be framed as the sole effect of a much larger phenomenon. What he is saying is we should want the same thing and be willing to adjust our expectations toward the defeat of our own kakistocracy. I went off on immigration myself because I don't understand it as a bread-and-butter issue to Americans, but it may have been established as such for now. Cultural issues require more careful, gradual approaches; they are strategic, not tactical. We have Substack, but we won't be buying any networks, sadly. I believe, though, as you do, with respect to Mr. Kasparov's suggestion, that it might be time for the Democrats to take a disciplined position in favor of controlled immigration and move towards amnesty.
Also it's very telling that I am addressing Gary Kasparov, and someone else is responding for him, to "explain" what he meant. I have never gotten a response from the author here. I am starting to wonder if it's actually him who writes these, or is it that he thinks it's beneath him to respond to his readers.
Democrats have always taken a disciplined position in favor of controlled immigration, as I underlined in my comment. So your last suggestion is moot. But then again, you said yourself you don’t understand immigration, so I get why you are still confused about what Democrats stand for.
Finally someone is willing to say the quiet part out loud In an interview(https://bit.ly/41rrNPb )with Greg Sargent over at the New Republic political theorist Alan Elrod makes the point that an electorate that votes an immoral cretin like Cheeto twice into office has something seriously wrong with it
As Elrod points out, "No morally healthy country would put this man in power twice," adding, "We have become a morally insane, civically disordered, and self-regardingly decadent country."
Yes, it’s hard to be introspective Hungary found this out with Orban and shows that democratic countries can right themselves Interviews with on the street Hungarians several months ago in one MSNOW segment showed the resolve to right the ship of state after having been oppressed for 16y In those interviews those interviewed spoke to Americans directly saying, “don’t make the same mistake we made”
But yet here we are Some of the electorate believed absent mindedly all the Cheeto campaign lies but there is always another day and come November it’ll be a new dawn and a new day
I believe there is moral intelligence, as well as emotional intelligence, even social intelligence. When I work in the yard all day digging holes, I am not thinking of Plato, my blood is in my arms, not my brain; shovel intelligence, I guess. I've done and said some stupid things at different times in my life, and I understand that a person can be quite dull on one thing but brilliant on another. The point of all this, and where some may disagree, is that I believe these intelligences are not entirely mutable as they are interchangeable, based on my own experience. Our nation may have a low moral IQ because our society is not really pulling in that direction. We are told to focus on pederasty in a lurid way, rather than on the power dynamics and human mechanics involved, which are too similar to our own politics. We emphasize punishment over forgiveness, and our actions are governed by fear, not favor. That can change, if it suits someone.
Proves I have 24/7 surveillance - just buried a dead ground-squirrel (DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY*) that was floating in my horse's trough. Dug a big ole hole in deep hard ground - using SHOVEL intelligence (exactly as you describe) - really I was trying to show up the ole Mexicans working on a building project on the other side of the fence to my horse property. They were pretty experienced old salts also.
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ME with - Archeological shovel intelligence + World War One trench digging intelligence (from an archaic Boarding school) and decades of shit shoveling and mucking out Horse barn intelligence and working with many different teams of Mexicans shovel "Intelligence" + training a young landscape firm called the WOLFSCAPERS to use both a rake and shovel (in spite of being nearly crippled).
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I did however catch covid off a rake for rigorous rake demonstrations (truly they had no idea) .
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Apparently I didn't practice "Safe raking". (rolling eyes yellow disk emoji that I can't be bothered to cut and paste.).
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I mean literally nobody uses a rake these days...(to their detriment.).
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- six years later I dug a hole in spite of serious back injuries (medical malpractice)- chronic pain - and a fatal heart condition caused by covid 19 (Permanent Atrial Fibrillation) on Beta blockers ... + shattered wrists (old injury) and recently on the mend broken leg and ankle... but my shovel strokes and dirt fly clean as swan lake the ballet.
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That was a proud moment for me in spite of being totally broke and crippled.
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Didn't know I had it in me - and yet I am quite young and def. not a coach potato / former gym rat.
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Fucking covid man.
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Two million American dead and counting ALL brushed uner the carpet.
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Another distraction to a distraction to a distraction of yet another core manipulation from yet ANOTHER distraction from actual culpability.
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Burying the medium sized little squirrel corpse not quite too flyblown nor bloated nor maggoty before it starts stinking up the joint seemed fairly symbolic to me. The now living icon for ADD and distraction itself now buried deep where even the dogs nor coyotes could find nor dig (UP) the soggy near time-frozen serene glistening gray bushy tailed little critter.
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Not quite sure if the building operation had used strychnine to kill the ground squirrels so correspondingly I had to completely change out 120 gallon troughs (for the horse) - in the middle of the night - super tricky if you have a torn (annular) tear s1 spinal disk and nerve wreckage.
I don't think we should underestimate the significance of what happened in Hungary this week.
Magyar's triumph there is part of a larger pattern in Eastern Europe. Poland also dumped the far right but it is often forgotten Romania and Moldova did too.
I live in France and I think this pattern will have a very big effect on the French presidential election next year. All these countries tried the far right nationalist route, found it wanting, and voted them out. That will not be lost on the French -- even on those fed up with "politics as usual."
The tide of history just may have begun to turn against the current wave of neonationalism -- at least in Europe.
The immigration 'problem' is, well, "trumped up". The Trump problem is not. I've long been willing to subordinate my own libertarian instincts about immigration to the purpose of defeating dissimulation and hypnotical lying influences in our politics. The 'problem' of immigration is far more of an imposition than immigration itself is. Americans' anxiety about jobs and one's own social integration can easily be turned into a bipolar view designed to enhance the power of a faction for its own ends, and this is what has happened. For the strictly pragmatic reasons cited by economists, Republicans have in the past granted amnesties and participated in the expansion of legal immigration, to the benefit of our economy and the refreshment of our nation. The USA is a regional and ethnic conglomerate and has no set culture, although I always considered that, if it did, it would be an aspirational elite of folks like Jeffrey Sachs (he gave a nice interview in the Nikkei Times last week). The East Coast prep school Ivy League elite that the Roosevelts and Kennedys inhabited were once the respectable guardians of Aristotelian ethics and the lessons of Tacitus; those people seem to be absolute shits now (et tu, Cavanaugh, enjoy your DC Power drinks.) I personally don't think that American independent voters, most of whom probably lean one way or another, are a monolithic block that leans right ethnonationalistically. With the capture of the political medium by special interests through the First Amendment, freedom of money as speech, increasingly, Democrats have compromised for Republican votes on bills by increasing customs enforcement personnel and reducing IRS funding, hoping to ride the trend. Meanwhile, immigration judges are being dismissed and are already insufficient to promulgate the laws we have. Now we have the (long-ignored) problem of corruption in our border enforcement. In the face of the ridiculous bigotry and underhandedness of Stephen Miller, I would expect that it would not be hard for the Democratic Party to maintain a disciplined border policy and stand up for legal immigration while merely stating the intention to enforce the law competently and fairly. We may disagree on this, but I believe that in the light of constant news reports about lives being torn apart, now is the time that Democrats should work towards a willingness to include amnesty in a new legal immigration bill. The question is: in November, will it be a change of government or a change of culture?
Democrats are trying to decide what they are right now. It will be seen in the mid-terms whether we go for this middle lane. I believe Texas will be the proof of concept on the middle lane idea. think there is a swell of voters ready to jump off off the MAGA bandwagon because it simply cannot or will not provide basic government services, nor will it stop its own corruption. Compare and contrast the trajectory of authoritarian consolidation in Texas and in Hungary. Compare and contrast the consolidation of opposition to MAGA Republicans in Texas to Hungary. Crockett v. Talaricio was the test of whether Democrats should appeal to Republicans/Independents to win an election in Texas or turnout all those alleged progressives just waiting to be activated.
Just like Hungary, the answer is you cannot win without garnering the votes of the moderately conservative by addressing their concerns because they are a majority. Both Talarico and Crockett are progressive. In fact, Talarico is probably a little more progressive than her. However, his theory of the case was building bridges to the more conservative side and promising to represent them too. He never changed his progressive principles, nor did he pretend he wasn't a progressive. And voters respected him for that. Crockett's theory of the case was to write off the moderately conservative and win on a wave of "hidden" progressives in Texas. Talaricio prevailed. He is freaking Trump and MAGA Republicans out right now because his cross-over appeal is so strong and he heads up a full ticket of down-ballot Democrats.
There is a void in US politics that Trump exploited, combining charisma and populism.
The Republican Party was broken by Gingrich removing diversity, giving Trump the ability to enact policies against their own policies.
That in turn broke the Democratic Party, which became a bucket of conflicting agendas with a confusing and weak bench. This disenfranchised many loyalists, and made independents effectively Republican voters.
At the same time the level of corruption exploded. Effectively the US is now really an oligarchy with enormous wealth transfers from middle class to billionaires without the historical power of the electorate.
I have little hope for the US in near term getting out of this loop. I suspect Hungary will do better if, and only if, Magyar gets enough time to solve the broken economy against the friction of entrenched institutions
Exactly. The "winning combination" is, first and foremost, "rule of law and rooting out corruption". The same story was in Poland 2023, when a twin-Orban illiberal gov was voted out.
A nice thing about "rule of law" is that most of the progressive agenda can live within this ecosystem, advancing at a pace which is accepted by the society. And somehow it always turns out that the "holier than a Pope" conservatives turn out to be thieves or worse.
So a really big tent can be put around a solid center or center-right credible leadership.
I guess I'm doing it all wrong even that r*tard chick on tik tok that does cool art bought herself a brand NEW Toyota Carolla from her social Media channel...
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Whoze the retard now Huh >>>> ME (apparently)...
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[" He treats the written word much in the same way Francis Bacon slashes his canvases with rejected paint and failed concepts while seeing raw slabs of butchered and hung halves of cow as beautiful through said rejected paint. " ].
I think a lot of Americans of the democratic persuasion will misinterpret what this election meant in both Hungary and how it translates to American. It wasn’t usa democratic liberals. It was a vote for the rule of law. For less corruption and more euro and less Russia. It wasn’t liberal American style progressivism. As you say still very anti immigration but even Denmark is tough on immigration and while not pro Ukrainian they want the 20 B euro 💶 and said will not block an EU loan 💸 if not participate. So a good day for Hungary and the world
People just don’t uncontrolled immigration. There may be a few people who don’t care but it’s a recipe for electing illiberal populists like Trump and Orban.
Agree. Even Bernie Sanders said if you don’t have borders you don’t have a country. You need borders and rules of entry and departure or you are not a country
The point is the system of liberal democracy was affirmed in Magyar's victory whatever his views on immigration.
Agree. My only point was that Americans tend to look at things occurring elsewhere through their own lens and can misinterpret what it means
Happy Birthday!
unfortunately, the dems are currently involved in an internal fight about whether they should campaign with hasan piker, a guy who says america deserved 9/11 and that the CCP is the world's best model government. so, i am not sanguine about their tactical approach.
What is your problem with immigration, Gary? They let you stay in the US, didn't they? On what grounds? And who was the president who let you stay? And yes, no human being is illegal. You can have borders and a nation and you can have a welcoming but sensible immigration process. Just like the one we had under every president before Trump, including Obama. So that poor people and refugees fleeing bombs and famine, including from Ukraine BTW, don't have to drown in the Rio Grande or be hunted down and shot like animals in the desert. What we have never had and don't have is open borders. That's a GOP trope. In fact more immigrants were deported during Obama's and Biden's time than during Trump's regime, because things were done by law and order, not by fear and chaos. Now we have Alligator Alcatraz where people disappear, thanks to the type of "actual conservatives" that you evidently espouse.
As far as Hungarians, yes, they are indeed right of center, hard headed, racist and misogynistic. I have worked with people from all over the world and can confirm. Maybe that's why they chose an "actual conservative". As long as they stay within their borders, oppose Putin and don't obstruct the European integration, we don't need their "conservative" example here in USA.
I think he is expressing an opinion on culture, not immigration, and is touching on the rising tensions in Europe and the USA over foreigners and gypsies. In the USA, I think it's more about jobs, and the occasional screw-up, drunk kid that murders or rapes. More like the problem of our Marines in Okinawa, where one incident can be framed as the sole effect of a much larger phenomenon. What he is saying is we should want the same thing and be willing to adjust our expectations toward the defeat of our own kakistocracy. I went off on immigration myself because I don't understand it as a bread-and-butter issue to Americans, but it may have been established as such for now. Cultural issues require more careful, gradual approaches; they are strategic, not tactical. We have Substack, but we won't be buying any networks, sadly. I believe, though, as you do, with respect to Mr. Kasparov's suggestion, that it might be time for the Democrats to take a disciplined position in favor of controlled immigration and move towards amnesty.
Also it's very telling that I am addressing Gary Kasparov, and someone else is responding for him, to "explain" what he meant. I have never gotten a response from the author here. I am starting to wonder if it's actually him who writes these, or is it that he thinks it's beneath him to respond to his readers.
Democrats have always taken a disciplined position in favor of controlled immigration, as I underlined in my comment. So your last suggestion is moot. But then again, you said yourself you don’t understand immigration, so I get why you are still confused about what Democrats stand for.
Also, there's a very loud faction within the GOP that wants even legal, highly skilled immigration halted.
It is a big win and I am happy. But Orban and Putin are not done. They will try to sabotage or coopt Magyar. We are not out of the woods.
What’s Wrong With The American Electorate?
Finally someone is willing to say the quiet part out loud In an interview(https://bit.ly/41rrNPb )with Greg Sargent over at the New Republic political theorist Alan Elrod makes the point that an electorate that votes an immoral cretin like Cheeto twice into office has something seriously wrong with it
As Elrod points out, "No morally healthy country would put this man in power twice," adding, "We have become a morally insane, civically disordered, and self-regardingly decadent country."
Yes, it’s hard to be introspective Hungary found this out with Orban and shows that democratic countries can right themselves Interviews with on the street Hungarians several months ago in one MSNOW segment showed the resolve to right the ship of state after having been oppressed for 16y In those interviews those interviewed spoke to Americans directly saying, “don’t make the same mistake we made”
But yet here we are Some of the electorate believed absent mindedly all the Cheeto campaign lies but there is always another day and come November it’ll be a new dawn and a new day
I believe there is moral intelligence, as well as emotional intelligence, even social intelligence. When I work in the yard all day digging holes, I am not thinking of Plato, my blood is in my arms, not my brain; shovel intelligence, I guess. I've done and said some stupid things at different times in my life, and I understand that a person can be quite dull on one thing but brilliant on another. The point of all this, and where some may disagree, is that I believe these intelligences are not entirely mutable as they are interchangeable, based on my own experience. Our nation may have a low moral IQ because our society is not really pulling in that direction. We are told to focus on pederasty in a lurid way, rather than on the power dynamics and human mechanics involved, which are too similar to our own politics. We emphasize punishment over forgiveness, and our actions are governed by fear, not favor. That can change, if it suits someone.
Proves I have 24/7 surveillance - just buried a dead ground-squirrel (DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY*) that was floating in my horse's trough. Dug a big ole hole in deep hard ground - using SHOVEL intelligence (exactly as you describe) - really I was trying to show up the ole Mexicans working on a building project on the other side of the fence to my horse property. They were pretty experienced old salts also.
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ME with - Archeological shovel intelligence + World War One trench digging intelligence (from an archaic Boarding school) and decades of shit shoveling and mucking out Horse barn intelligence and working with many different teams of Mexicans shovel "Intelligence" + training a young landscape firm called the WOLFSCAPERS to use both a rake and shovel (in spite of being nearly crippled).
.
I did however catch covid off a rake for rigorous rake demonstrations (truly they had no idea) .
.
Apparently I didn't practice "Safe raking". (rolling eyes yellow disk emoji that I can't be bothered to cut and paste.).
.
I mean literally nobody uses a rake these days...(to their detriment.).
.
- six years later I dug a hole in spite of serious back injuries (medical malpractice)- chronic pain - and a fatal heart condition caused by covid 19 (Permanent Atrial Fibrillation) on Beta blockers ... + shattered wrists (old injury) and recently on the mend broken leg and ankle... but my shovel strokes and dirt fly clean as swan lake the ballet.
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That was a proud moment for me in spite of being totally broke and crippled.
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Didn't know I had it in me - and yet I am quite young and def. not a coach potato / former gym rat.
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Fucking covid man.
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Two million American dead and counting ALL brushed uner the carpet.
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Another distraction to a distraction to a distraction of yet another core manipulation from yet ANOTHER distraction from actual culpability.
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Burying the medium sized little squirrel corpse not quite too flyblown nor bloated nor maggoty before it starts stinking up the joint seemed fairly symbolic to me. The now living icon for ADD and distraction itself now buried deep where even the dogs nor coyotes could find nor dig (UP) the soggy near time-frozen serene glistening gray bushy tailed little critter.
.
Not quite sure if the building operation had used strychnine to kill the ground squirrels so correspondingly I had to completely change out 120 gallon troughs (for the horse) - in the middle of the night - super tricky if you have a torn (annular) tear s1 spinal disk and nerve wreckage.
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Why does this all sound like Sam Elliot from Big Lebowski ?
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"The Stranger" ?
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Well maybe slightly different to usual Daniel Day Lewis beats Paul Dano over the head with a bowling pin and "Drink your milkshake sequence" -
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"I'm finished " .
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hAaIxDTjQA&t=1s
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Johannes Brahms - Violin Concerto in D Major Op.77: 3. Vivace Non Troppo (There Will Be Blood)
YES YES Wake Up America.... and learn to LOVE PURPLE!
Happy birthday, Gary!
I don't think we should underestimate the significance of what happened in Hungary this week.
Magyar's triumph there is part of a larger pattern in Eastern Europe. Poland also dumped the far right but it is often forgotten Romania and Moldova did too.
I live in France and I think this pattern will have a very big effect on the French presidential election next year. All these countries tried the far right nationalist route, found it wanting, and voted them out. That will not be lost on the French -- even on those fed up with "politics as usual."
The tide of history just may have begun to turn against the current wave of neonationalism -- at least in Europe.
The immigration 'problem' is, well, "trumped up". The Trump problem is not. I've long been willing to subordinate my own libertarian instincts about immigration to the purpose of defeating dissimulation and hypnotical lying influences in our politics. The 'problem' of immigration is far more of an imposition than immigration itself is. Americans' anxiety about jobs and one's own social integration can easily be turned into a bipolar view designed to enhance the power of a faction for its own ends, and this is what has happened. For the strictly pragmatic reasons cited by economists, Republicans have in the past granted amnesties and participated in the expansion of legal immigration, to the benefit of our economy and the refreshment of our nation. The USA is a regional and ethnic conglomerate and has no set culture, although I always considered that, if it did, it would be an aspirational elite of folks like Jeffrey Sachs (he gave a nice interview in the Nikkei Times last week). The East Coast prep school Ivy League elite that the Roosevelts and Kennedys inhabited were once the respectable guardians of Aristotelian ethics and the lessons of Tacitus; those people seem to be absolute shits now (et tu, Cavanaugh, enjoy your DC Power drinks.) I personally don't think that American independent voters, most of whom probably lean one way or another, are a monolithic block that leans right ethnonationalistically. With the capture of the political medium by special interests through the First Amendment, freedom of money as speech, increasingly, Democrats have compromised for Republican votes on bills by increasing customs enforcement personnel and reducing IRS funding, hoping to ride the trend. Meanwhile, immigration judges are being dismissed and are already insufficient to promulgate the laws we have. Now we have the (long-ignored) problem of corruption in our border enforcement. In the face of the ridiculous bigotry and underhandedness of Stephen Miller, I would expect that it would not be hard for the Democratic Party to maintain a disciplined border policy and stand up for legal immigration while merely stating the intention to enforce the law competently and fairly. We may disagree on this, but I believe that in the light of constant news reports about lives being torn apart, now is the time that Democrats should work towards a willingness to include amnesty in a new legal immigration bill. The question is: in November, will it be a change of government or a change of culture?
Democrats are trying to decide what they are right now. It will be seen in the mid-terms whether we go for this middle lane. I believe Texas will be the proof of concept on the middle lane idea. think there is a swell of voters ready to jump off off the MAGA bandwagon because it simply cannot or will not provide basic government services, nor will it stop its own corruption. Compare and contrast the trajectory of authoritarian consolidation in Texas and in Hungary. Compare and contrast the consolidation of opposition to MAGA Republicans in Texas to Hungary. Crockett v. Talaricio was the test of whether Democrats should appeal to Republicans/Independents to win an election in Texas or turnout all those alleged progressives just waiting to be activated.
Just like Hungary, the answer is you cannot win without garnering the votes of the moderately conservative by addressing their concerns because they are a majority. Both Talarico and Crockett are progressive. In fact, Talarico is probably a little more progressive than her. However, his theory of the case was building bridges to the more conservative side and promising to represent them too. He never changed his progressive principles, nor did he pretend he wasn't a progressive. And voters respected him for that. Crockett's theory of the case was to write off the moderately conservative and win on a wave of "hidden" progressives in Texas. Talaricio prevailed. He is freaking Trump and MAGA Republicans out right now because his cross-over appeal is so strong and he heads up a full ticket of down-ballot Democrats.
In the long run, America needs a truly multi-party system.
There is a void in US politics that Trump exploited, combining charisma and populism.
The Republican Party was broken by Gingrich removing diversity, giving Trump the ability to enact policies against their own policies.
That in turn broke the Democratic Party, which became a bucket of conflicting agendas with a confusing and weak bench. This disenfranchised many loyalists, and made independents effectively Republican voters.
At the same time the level of corruption exploded. Effectively the US is now really an oligarchy with enormous wealth transfers from middle class to billionaires without the historical power of the electorate.
I have little hope for the US in near term getting out of this loop. I suspect Hungary will do better if, and only if, Magyar gets enough time to solve the broken economy against the friction of entrenched institutions
Happy Birthday!
Exactly. The "winning combination" is, first and foremost, "rule of law and rooting out corruption". The same story was in Poland 2023, when a twin-Orban illiberal gov was voted out.
A nice thing about "rule of law" is that most of the progressive agenda can live within this ecosystem, advancing at a pace which is accepted by the society. And somehow it always turns out that the "holier than a Pope" conservatives turn out to be thieves or worse.
So a really big tent can be put around a solid center or center-right credible leadership.
I have a migraine - .
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My advice - YOU ARE NOT DOING IT RIGHT UNLESS it gives you a migraine.
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Pro-tip ^^^
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It's a living I guess -
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I guess I'm doing it all wrong even that r*tard chick on tik tok that does cool art bought herself a brand NEW Toyota Carolla from her social Media channel...
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Whoze the retard now Huh >>>> ME (apparently)...
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[" He treats the written word much in the same way Francis Bacon slashes his canvases with rejected paint and failed concepts while seeing raw slabs of butchered and hung halves of cow as beautiful through said rejected paint. " ].
I'm not 100% sure where you get graded micro-tonal (rubber) chickens from...
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(Not a $5000.00 a plate fund raiser - rubber chicken "Event" + famous speaker thrown in .).
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