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S J M's avatar

There is a huge difference between ICE and the Stasi and Gestapo. The Stasi and Gestapo didn’t wear masks.

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Fatima Abo Alasrar's avatar

In Syria, they were known as 'mukhabarat.' In Iran, 'SAVAK,' then "Basij." Every authoritarian system needs its enforcement arm and 1:400 ratio is getting so uncomfortably close to those models. We used to study these systems to avoid them, not replicate them. This can't end well.

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Marlo's avatar

A Case For Impeachment Against Donald J. Trump - NOW Is the Time

From John Bonifaz, a Constitutional Attorney & President of “Free Speech For People”:

There needs to be a case for IMPEACHMENT against Donald J Trump BUILT NOW, in light of all the multiple abuses of power that this president has committed since taking the oath of office again.

The framers understood we would not have any monarch or any tyrant govern this nation. We were to be a nation led by the people through a democracy and they put in the constitution clear guard rails with respect to ensuring there would NOT be a monarch or a tyrant:

Article I, establishing the United States Congress;

Article II, establishing the Presidency;

Article III, establishing the Judiciary.

Three co-equal branches of government.

But they also put in an extra guardrail, and that guard rail is the impeachment clause, Section 4 of article2. And that is what we must invoke today; no Kings in America, no monarchs in America. Donald Trump must be impeached and removed from office.

For the skeptics about this being the proper time now to impeach Trump;

1. We either have a Constitution or we don’t. We either have an impeachment clause or we don’t. We either have a democracy or we don’t.

If we are not going to invoke the impeachment clause at this present time when this president has so trampled upon the Constitution and the rule of law, we might as well give up on the Constitution.

2. We NORMALIZE this conduct, these crimes. We normalize them when we don’t name them for what they are. They are high crimes against the state. That is what an impeachment offense is.

3. Members of Congress take the same oath that Donald Trump did on January 20, 2025 to defend and protect the Constitution. They have a duty to protect and defend the Constitution in the face of this lawlessness coming out of this White House.

There are 19 grounds for impeachable offenses that can be found on:

impeachtrumpagain.org

If you don’t like those, you can add your own.

What you can’t do is stay on the sidelines in the face of this march to tyranny.

You have to stand up and abide by your oaths. If you don’t, YOU are part of the problem.

Those in Congress who were not standing with the Constitution [ when they voted to table Congressman Green’s ] are part of the problem.

If Congress were to do it’s duty and impeach Donald Trump, then the next person in line for the office would know that they’re next if they engage in those kind of abuses of power.

1. If we as a country have gone about enforcing the rule of law, enforcing the Constitution against this lawlessness, then the next person coming into the White House, who does the same thing would need to face the same kind of proceeding.

2. if JD Vance were to become president of the United States and he’s already committed abuse of power, then he’s too should replace face impeachment and removal proceedings.

There are certainly others in his administration that have colluded with him, conspired with him, to attack our Constitution, to attack our democracy, to attack the other co-equal branches of government and ought to be held accountable.

Here’s the list of lawmakers who voted either for or against Rep. Green’s recent impeachment resolution (remember, AYE is the bad vote, to table the resolution and NAY the good one),

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-impeachment-vote-al-green-democrats-list-2090250

and a link to the Trump impeachment website.

https://youtube.com/@freespeechpeople?si=yB-QGNbsWYWcnFHw

For the video of this excellent Jessica Cravens Substack:

https://open.substack.com/pub/chopwoodcarrywaterdailyactions/p/lets-talk-impeachment-with-john-bonifaz

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drbilldean@gmail.com's avatar

Cheeto Is Killing People But It’s None of Your Damned Business So Butt Out

With their savage draconian policies the Nazis have now killed at least 12 and probably more innocent people in ICE custody For the GOP/Nazi’s in Congress who just gave a huge bonus to ICE with the recent budget bill, it’s just another day at the office These women and men who are complicit in this terrorist organization should be reported to the International Criminal Court for murder, just like Putin has been

This complete and utter disregard for human life should be condemned from every sector of our “civil” society And now Congressional oversight by Democrats to legally visit the concentration camps, these efforts are thwarted and turned away Civic groups charged with oversight have either been terminated or cut back to Cheeto loyalists

So America has finally become Nazi Germany Send the Jews/Immigrants to concentration camps like Dachau or Auschwitz and let them die

WE the People Cannot Stand for This Barbaric Behavior in America Protest Protest Protest

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leon robert's avatar

I.C.E. has devolved into the cornpone gestapo.

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elliott oberman's avatar

you have the best insight, a gift from g-d!

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Ronald Kim's avatar

These developments deserve the full attention of all people. Modern Christendom, born of the Protestant Reformation and Enlightenment ideas, is not immune to a return to the midnight of intolerance and persecution. Christian tolerance for all opinions is an inalienable right enshrined in our Constitution. “Man’s relation with his God is above human legislation, and his rights of conscience inalienable.” —Congressional documents (U.S.A.), serial No. 200, document No. 271.

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Arthur Schaper's avatar

You should be ashamed of yourself for comparing ICE agents to the Gestapo or the Stasi. Illegal aliens should be deported from the United States. They have violated this nation's immigration laws.

Tell me, Gary, what is the consequence for illegal entry or unlawful presence in your native Azerbaijan?

Forced expulsion is clearly stated as a consequence! That is precisely what ICE is doing in the United States.

https://migration.gov.az/en/useful_detail/594#:~:text=Organizing%20illegal%20entry%2C%20staying%20and,or%20body%20executing%20primary%20punishment.

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Millicent's avatar

Yeah - they are def Neo Nazis.

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Deacon Ferrocarril's avatar

It depends on who they go after. More Terrorists, both Muslim and Progressive, is a benefit to Democracy.

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Brian's avatar

ICE on steroids exactly what any properly functioning democracy needs......land of the free to turn up armed to the teeth in masks and arrest whoever the fuck they want to and yet millions of Americans cheer them on.

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Greg's avatar

Two things.

First, how can you say that the number of illegal immigrants has stayed about the same for the last two decades when over 12 million illegal immigrants have come into the USA in the four years Biden was President. This is an order of magnitude more than any previous President. Please don't compare ICE to the Gestapo. ICE does not torture people, or murder them. They do enforce the law. Maybe you should scold congress for not changing the law.

Secondly, do you know exactly what changes were made to Medicaid? My understanding is that all able bodied people will need to spend 20 hours a week looking for a job or volunteering to do community work to qualify. This does not include children, or their mothers, or the elderly, or disabled, or mentally ill, etc.. If you have better ideas on how reduce the budget I would like to hear them.

The OBBBA is too big and full of pork as so many bills are. THAT is worth examining with your excellent mental capabilities.

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V Baldwin's avatar

Third thing.

Hunting ppl down with no (that is zero) criminal record is hunger games IRL.

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