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Donald Ashman's avatar

This is brilliant writing and reporting.

I am moved to both tears, and rage.

I pray, that within my lifetime, the people of Iran and Cuba will again be free.

Friedrike Merck's avatar

Thank you very much for taking the time to share the extraordinary, terrifying and inspiring story of this brave woman, this Nobel Peace Laureate.

I will keep her in my prayers (as much as Agnostics pray) and will remember her resolve in my own political/civic work.

Eric B Lange's avatar

In my own capacity as a test hamster - a crash test dummy - for a very dark and protracted set of experiments...

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I keep saying "You can't WIN an experiment..".

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And then some idiot will eventually take the word "Experiment" and then falsely apply it to the "American Experiment".

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This seems to happen a lot in (ancient surviving) Greek philosophy where people use one end of the stick incorrectly and try to sticky tape it or weld or glue it to the other end of a completely unrelated stick nearly separated by nearly three thousand (fucking) years - for Gods' sake. The said second stick being completely unknown in shape form and concept to the actual cognizance of the Ancients - especially if quoting and confabulating Plato and then later Aristotle.

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Very very very sloppy thinking - one where a serious boundary should have been set.

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As I say (especially if you read the Anabasis) do NOT attempt to "Sane wash" the ancients <--- If you look at some of the shit those guys got up to you'd be rethinking anything and everything that Xenophon held in high esteem and purpose.

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And he's one of the more "Coherent" ones.

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Eric B Lange's avatar

If I was going to feed Jay's article to the "Matrix" / wetware...

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It would come back with the conclusion 3rd signal - that one is embedded in an environment completely composed of total (reprehensible) cowardly douche-bags - (from hell) that just take the money and look the other way.

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But mainly the embedded environment of douchebags.

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The second signal would be the 'Decoy" signal - basically making the assertion (not even Hermeneutically between the lines) - that the Nobel Peace prize encourages people to inflict unnecessary harm on themselves in the hope of "Winning" it.

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This is also correspondingly WHY at the Oscars for example there are not Stunts Oscars as that would tempt people (Stunt masters / coordinators / artists ) to preform ever more dangerous feats eventually racking up more "Kills".

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The Nobel Peace prize tends to be a consolation prize for people embedded into ceaselessly and unresolvable douche-baggish situations.

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Like Stacy Abrams makes the short "List" 'cuz she is swimming against an endless tide of racist pieces of shit at every level. [But there are also skeletons in the closet and anyone that acquired any level of power in the USA has had to break at least some eggs to make their own respective omelets work for them - and other mixed metaphors of a "Dirty business" in a dirty world where some are given MORE automatic "virtue" than others. ].

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The Norwegians go - 'Sorry you didn't get where you were hoping to get to 'cuz you iz black - have a prize ... ".

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We still seem to live in a world where 'Peace" can only be brought about by force and war.

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We LIKED the idea of Gorbachev back in the day didn't we - we in the West.

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Bringers of peaceful change - a magical blanket of peace over every situation etc.

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Eric B Lange's avatar

Like Biden set out to heal the "Soul" of the nation...

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^^^ Didn't that go well .

Eric B Lange's avatar

Generally the effect is much like having ten thousand electronic fingers pointing and touching into one's semantic cortex (wired into - if you will) at a distance of thousands of miles virtually.

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Linda I's avatar

This is a must-read. Anyone who is frustrated by civic and political challenges where our fights seem to go nowhere need to read this and realize how many people have suffered and given their lives for the common good. It takes courage and stamina to stand up to evil.

Eric B Lange's avatar

Notes from the bubble:

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(Might help someone in a tricky situation should they fall foul of the authorities or find their freedoms curtailed in either physical or mental / virtual forms.).

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First rule (other than don't talk about fight-club) - is don't come in out from the cold <--- To do so is a newb mistake. Never believe that the people / entities operating these kinds of systems can be benevolent in any way (shape or form).

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In terms of communication these past seven years - (in the bubble) "we" have sought various hybrid systems. Many of the techniques seem more from the Russian ways of doing things with a digital twist. <--- This has implications ultimately for those living in a 'Digital society". [That may or may not be discussed later and how that pertains to notions of "FREE WILL" <--- something I am not really allowed to talk about.].

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First couple of years it relies more on KGB techniques of "Kompromat" - where an individual will be encouraged to 'puke up" and confess nearly everything about their respective lives. Everybody has some sort transgressions or "Skeletons" <--- (there you go) in their closet to a greater or lesser extent. I have elected to GO the everything private in my life is now public - that way "They" can't hold something over one - in the sense that one will be endlessly compromised and leveraged by darker 'Forces" entities and agents. [Not everyone can do that as some people really DO have extremely bad things that they transacted at some portion in their lives that make them seem like total douche bags to a very extreme degree - beyond a faux pearl clutching set of political enemies that would be "gasping" at such transgressions of moral rectitude - WAAAAY beyond that . ].

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I.e. If you don't play ball with "Us" we will let the people know that really you are the kind of person that does or did - blah blah blah blah blah blah - [Redacted ]... Triangulating public opinion to smear or besmirch one's character.

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I have elected to go the "I have NO virtue route" especially as a grown up having lived an "Adult life". [In some sense it useful to reframe what it actually means to be an adult and sometimes to BE the "Good guy" you actually have to BE the bad guy. ]. This is not a "Pull a snape" in a Harry Potter (fantasy type) universe.

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Those that have much worse things to hide in such situations become severely compromised.

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Their whole existence becomes paranoically directed to protecting their own darker secrets - permanently on the back foot and such information may have the capacity to destroy whatever relationships and personal life / lives they may have built for themselves.

^^^ I'll call that Kompromat A.

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Kompromat B <--- (my own nomenclature) - is when ALL the life knowledge and experience of an individual and endless interviews - auto - "Spilt" or extracted (Actually the East German Police used to do this a lot as well (Stasi)) - is used as a covert form of communication.

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So - a message or set of seemingly "Random" messages have been crafted to trigger certain responses (in the mind) of the target " Agent" / Asset ONLY something that their respective handlers / soft-captors KNOW and the target individual knows and virtually no one else on Earth.

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If the message is composed of direct metaphors that allude to compromising events in the target's life it is also a reminder that "THEY" (your handlers / soft - captors) even though you appear to be out in the field - THEY still own your ass. <--- Key point is that "THEY" have the ability to 'RING YOUR BELL" at any time - basically a triggered response from the limbic system and medulla oblongata ... It feels like your nerves running through your spine and body are being rung like "Bing bing bing bing bing " ( bong ?) . Severe forms of that response feel almost or nearly like a psychosis without being an actual psychotic episode especially if that has come about via acreted and stochastic means.

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I am very boring in the sense that I have never seen anything that wasn't there or heard anything that wasn't there. But some people can be pushed over the edge by external stimuli. Obviously.

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I could show or develop certain personal examples (of these Kompromat based communication systems) but - maybe something easier to grasp would be... Something like

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Message seems to confer - "The Miller ground the flour - the stones are ready - etc. ".

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And one might have known or been involved in an episode (for example in WWII) where someone's head was crushed by a set of millstones in a working windmill that was grinding flour ... And you only were able to escape as you held a bowie knife to the young Dutch boy's testicles as you drag yourself and the boy to the woods so the miller / farmer doesn't pursue you - and then you cut the boys throat anyway... rather than his balls. <--- Only you (for example know that - and someone might have a reputation as a virtuous 'War hero" or hero to a cause etc. - where counter arguments of "It was a different time" or flat denial as "One" might be a really bad liar - don't seem t fly very well. [In an active war many such ad hoc atrocities are perpetrated - the movie (for example) All Quiet on the Western Front touched on that a bit .].

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A lot of alternate communication techniques came about as the idea of Julian Assange - completely hacked and monitored 24/7 every second of the day until he goes completely bat-shit crazy.

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So early on by year two to year three I / we figured on a technique I call THREE WAYS THROUGH the PRISM.

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First there is the superficial interpretation - the obvious "Everyman" interpretation of the message that has interposed itself or made itself very clear.

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Second there is the decoy message - in a sense what a notional enemy or counter asset would seek to infer or reverse engineer.

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Third way through the prism is a faint signal that actually means something but totally flies under the threshold of normal "Plausible deniability" <--- I.e. clear to one but impossible to plausibly convey to anyone else.

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Also usually tied to Kompromat B and A so it's not very likely that the message will be explained as it requires the individual to explain to a trusted "other" terrible things that someone might have committed.

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Sometime a whole string of metaphors can be presented that are assembled "like" TRNA with a Ribosome "like entity" (semantic mind) - assembling the missing complimentary parts to create a two stranded molecule from an unzipped negative profile of a single stranded message (sections of assembled DNA rather than just protein synthesis / transcription .). The negative profile has the positive profile constructed for it - like a mold.

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Each metaphor is presented in half - and one has to assemble the other half of the individual element. Sometimes as a string of complimentary parts - almost like Cockney Rhyming slang...

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Whistle and Flute ---> Suit --- but you or one would NEVER say the rhyming compliment,

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so one would say,

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That's a nice whistle...

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Famous one's (like a bad Dick Van Dyke or Clair Danes in Homeland)

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"Apples and pears" --- > Stairs ... one says Apple ... "Arse over tea-cup down the ole Apple at the Dog & Biscuit ". [ maybe someone got killed that way - like an Episode of East Enders (back in the day).].

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You don't say "Apples and pears - stairs ".

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etc.

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etc.

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Having been immersed in this shit show for seven years - some claim ten - and unwitting yet witting (eventually) participant in one of the darkest and most protracted experiments of it's kind - where FREE WILL can be "measured" or it's limits (a bit like they guys at AMAZON (on the other side of the screen) watching and laughing how someone thinks they are making purchase choices based on FREE WILL - as opposed to stochastic grooming algorithms.

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Blah blah blah - HAVING been immersed in this for the larger fraction of a decade I have found that it's possible (in a semantic space) to MAP literally anything to anything in a single step.

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Therefore one has to be extremely suspicious of conspiratorial "arguments" made up of compound chains of suppostions.

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^^^ We get into this with Socrates / Plato and the supposed (famous) cave - which is absolutely ludicrous as a metaphor - questioning in fact whether Glaucus is in fact BLIND - or just really dense as a dog and bird breeder. AND you have to ask the question - when if ever was Socrates not taking the piss ? And Plato trying to save his own neck and make "Philosophy" a respectable profession (not just two clicks up from being a slave to a noble house )... Plato is having to re-work material from Socrates so that he himself is not also killed / murdered by the noble class.

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^^^That.

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I don't owe anybody anything (other than my son for trying to help me at a distance ) - Therefore 'Comprehensive treatments will not be offered even though what is offered above has more expandable elements than what one could sensibly shake a canal boat full of sticks at.

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One mo.

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Eric B Lange's avatar

[we're not even getting into data mining large data sets and emotional responses from bio-feedback devices that measure whilst utilizing reverse engineered time stamps to corelate with variously themed issues on-line and particular spaces that pertain to specific issues - that certain types of targets react to, that can then be further monetized (to determine what really pushes an individual's "Buttons" ) - more frothy angry EYE_BALL_$ that these "Social Media companies" generate to concentrate even greater sums of money from <--- not even going THERE - in this instance; we are just considering the relationship between a single individual and their respective soft captors. Not 100% unlike an Agent B-man situation and the TV show "The Americans". <--- looking back at some of these types of TV shows I laugh a bit including John le Carré / David John Moore Cornwell .

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[Sidenote: John le Carré maintains that there is no imaginary room of central control where everything is directed from - just an empty room with a rickety chair in any spy-ring ... And I maintain that in fact political policy IS driven, and everything is in response to that - leaders ARE the one's pulling the levers even compromised meat puppets pull a range of levers. ].

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Protect the Vote's avatar

Contact your state rep/state senator to introduce a trigger law and have it in place before the election: if the federal government interferes with the election, the state will redirect federal taxes to an escrow account.

Christopher Armitage’s idea (one of his many resistance ideas to use state powers). https://cmarmitage.substack.com/p/if-you-steal-our-elections-you-dont?r=56wm8i&utm_medium=ios