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Robert Jaffee's avatar

I 💯 agree Garry,

I saw a man completely out of his depth, with advisors just as clueless as he is. Rubio fired all of the State Department experts (over 1,500 diplomats), the NSC has been gutted and Trump showed up with Witkoff (incompetent and possible Russian stooge) and Rubio, who looked like a deer caught in the headlights.

Additionally, Trump said if a ceasefire agreement wasn’t solidified, there would be hell to pay. Yet, all we hear are crickets. No sanctions, he didn’t even bother to reinstall the banking sanctions he released two weeks ago.

Moreover, he gave a mass murderer a platform, rolled out the red carpet, acted like he just saw his best friend for the first time in years, and like in Helsinki, he praised Putin and their friendship repeatedly. Who does this?? I’d call the affair: HELL-sinki: 2:0! Putin got the two things he needed: legitimacy and time.

Not to mention, Trump walked away saying it’s in Ukraine’s hands now. Thats it? A two hour meeting and a weak response? This doesn’t sound like a victory to me, it sounds very much like capitulation.

Furthermore, I just listened to several expert positions that claimed the meeting was successful. Is this how we measure success with Trump? He didn’t give away the store? There’s a reason for that, Trump is no longer in control. And you can’t make progress when one of the parties isn’t even invited to the SHOW!

Honestly, to me, this has all the same familiar hallmarks of the Surrender Agreement, I mean DOHA Agreement; and we all how well that worked out for the Afghans: unless of course, you were the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

Bottom line; this negotiation was a distraction plain and simple, just as many of us suspected. It served no purpose other than to distract from Trump’s personal issues and a cratering economy, and the results speak for themselves.

Moreover, Putin controlled the stage, set the tone and showed Trump who was boss. He even addressed the press first, which is not only unheard of, but against protocol.

That said, the only good that came out of this spectacle is that Trump didn’t throw Zelenskyy under the bus in public (who knows what was said behind closed doors).

In addition, it appears this meeting just confirmed what our NATO and European allies already suspected; they can no longer trust the United States going forward, and will look to make separate security and economic agreements away from the United States. I wouldn’t be surprised if talk begins for the complete disbanding of NATO sometime into the future.

Finally, there is some positive news. The $50 billion in current arms sales to NATO and hundreds of billions in future military spending by Europe to our Military Industrial Complex (MIC) is all the leverage the Europeans need to keep Trump in line; for now.

Otherwise, it was a very productive meeting. I can’t wait for Trump to visit Moscow; I sure he and Putin will solve world hunger and Middle East peace! IMHO…:)

FYI: there was incredible news for Ukraine!🇺🇦in its defense of a lawless and depraved kleptocrat. Ukraine sank a cargo ship with Iranian drones headed to Russia and decimated an attack by Russia when Ukrainian forces infiltrated north of Pokrovsk, killing 500-1000 Russian special forces. Well done!

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Anna's avatar
1dEdited

Trump and Putin are like twins separated at birth.

One was raised in the brutal KGB household, the other in the gilded mansion of American wealth. Both share the same instincts: domination through spectacle. Yet Trump’s corruption is softened by luxury, while Putin’s is sharpened by a deep Russian inferiority complex summed up in one phrase: “We’ll show you!”

Different upbringings, same resemblance. The battle of wills hides less than it reveals—their kinship is genetic, and unmistakable.

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suzc's avatar

That is a fascinating thought! "their kinship is genetic" -- can be a true statement even if not literally same gene pool. Interesting that it is the spoiled brat that is the weak one.

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Timbo's avatar

TBF Putin was also reportedly very spoiled by his parents (who’d already another child, IIRC), and could do no wrong in their eyes, no matter how depraved and increasingly criminal the actions (Gessen’s harrowing biography The Man Without A Face, The Big Steal by the BBC, A. Litvenenko’s deathbed, post-poisoning interview with Luke Harding, f/ex).

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suzc's avatar

Now THAT is even MORE interesting, since the SAME was true with TRUMP! Spoiled and criminal from toddlerhood! Psychopathic?

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Timbo's avatar

“He’s another Hitler, or a Stalin. The blood will rise”—prophetic deathbed quote of poisoned ex-KGB whistleblower Alexander Litvenenko, who had initially investigated the Moscow apartment bombings, and discovered they were an inside job

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Conor Gallogly's avatar

Trump’s behavior with Putin is particularly bad.

I think we need to focus on why so many Americans are either cheering this on or indifferent to it. But of that is dealing with their own problems. But the other part is that leaders of both parties haven’t done a good job communicating why our involvement with the rest of the world is important, not to mention why we should be opposing Putin. And thus USAID was the easiest target for DOGE to attack.

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drbilldean@gmail.com's avatar

TACO Cheeto: A Nazi Russian Kiss Ass and American Traitor

It’s been known that Cheeto since the 1980’s has been in the back pockets of the KGB/GRU(https://bit.ly/4fIdQmj) and shamelessly received lots of money from Russian oligarchs through real estate transactions(https://bit.ly/4188w5B) A case of Russian Kompromat a term that was circulated in the 2017 media when Russiagate was prominent is all too obvious

In Anchorage Cheeto continued to show his Russian fealty and that he is the first American President to be an American traitor in which he takes another country’s needs over that of his own country(https://bit.ly/4mJbshd) Cheeto lost another bout as Putin continues killing innocent civilians, showing no sign of capitulation for a ceasefire and Cheeto continues to be the Benedict Arnold of the 21st century with no sanctions or demands In true style TACO Cheeto says he’ll give Putin 50d to come to a ceasefire

In essence Putin played Cheeto like a fiddle Russia is celebrating with wall to wall media coverage The EU and NATO better get ready to go it alone and adopt a massive aggressive approach against the Russian invasion because Cheeto might as well be a Russian citizen and resident of Moscow but he’s such an immoral abomination even the Russians wouldn’t take him

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TM Elton's avatar

Epstein. Donald got what he wanted, the refocus away from Epstein. USA be damned, Ukraine is not his problem. Putin owns Donald. Donald will not cross him. The fact that USSR economy is smaller than Italy and that Putin is riding a razor edge is beyond Donald's grasp. Everyone, including Russia wants Putin's war to end.

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suzc's avatar

Every American needs to be screaming EPSTEIN and UKRAINE to every politician in DC every day until this is brought under some kind of control!!!! Trump is not just a disgusting spoiled infant, he is dangerously demented and incapable of holding any office even if he wanted to which he does not!

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Randyzpdx's avatar

If Trump really wanted a Nobel Peace Medal, he should have had ICE agents arrest Putin and turn him over to the ICC.

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JC Carter's avatar

Putin continues to play Trump like a toy violin. My only beef is that you underplay the European failure here, which certainly matches or surpasses that of the US. For Obama to stage his “pivot to Asia” he needed the Euros to lead when Putin invaded Crimea. Merkel et al refused to step up.

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Timbo's avatar

Yes—and Biden tried to get Obama to stand up earlier and stronger to Putin (unfair shot of GK re Biden btw), who TBF knew the other side was waiting to pounce no matter what he did.

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Gayle Frances Larkin's avatar

Thank you for pointing out the details and their meanings of this catastrophic failure at international negotiations. This is what we all believe: the world is being destroyed and it seems there is no appetite to step up and do the honourable act: save Ukraine, save the world, and save us all from the encroaching climate change.

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Jeroen's avatar

A very succinct and accurate take on events. Thank you.

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BeadleBlog's avatar

I saw the glass half full. By hosting Putin in Alaska, I interpreted that as reminding the Russians that they gave up territory to the USA. Trump studies the other side and the battlefield. This isn't over.

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RNDM31's avatar

>implying Trump ever studied anything

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elliott oberman's avatar

You're again spot on, thank for the truth Garry!

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Birgit Strobel's avatar

As always a great comment.

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Ted Dorff's avatar

I agree. But I don’t think we know everything that is planned by this administration. We get played for decades and appear to have gotten played again, but I want to believe DJ Tourette’s hasn’t disclosed all of his cards yet.

Nothing short of Russia getting out of Ukraine now, paying to rebuild, and not attacking neighboring countries in the future will be complete success.

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LM's avatar

Trump doesn’t have a plan or “cards” or anything like that, in this case or any case. It’s just whatever he can use as the latest distraction.

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Ted Dorff's avatar

I don't believe anyone who knows what he hasn't publicly said, has permission to speak, so I assume you're not in that category. I understand not liking him, but I doubt you know his intentions.

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LM's avatar
1dEdited

lol of course I know his intentions. He has only one intention. Everyone with any sense who pays attention knows what his intention is.

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RNDM31's avatar

His lifetime track record speaks for itself.

His current policies even more so.

No special gnosis is needed to recognize a blundering fool utterly out of his depth.

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