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JPL's avatar

Thank you for the commenting on the comments. It is refreshing to hear constructive critique. You have an important and uniquely informed perspective that helps to shed light on the current challenges and opportunities our nation is facing. To step back and look at the patterns, the consequences and both the strengths and weaknesses of historic administration's leadership and decisions could establish the ground on which to build a strategy to propel us forward. Honest self reflection could help to move this beloved nation toward a more mature, effective, stronger democratic republic. I see opportunity in this moment of history, as frightening, disruptive as it is. And I think you have pointed out something very important to help us. Though perhaps a little out of the box, it occurred to me while listening to the recording today that it would be very interesting if you were to have a (another?) live conversation with Heather Cox Richardson. Your two perspectives together could result in some powerful insights and ideas as to how to best meet this moment by looking thoughtfully and critically at our past. Just a random thought.

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I am going to offer something enormously controversial - something I have been thinking about since the last pre-election campaign - something I think the Democrats get very wrong - also something I think YOU, Mr. Kasparov, spend too much time pooh-poohing.

While no Democrat may ever get a MAGA vote, it is self-defeating - indeed, worse, dismissive and insulting - to simply ignore and antagonize them (not you personally) by assuming (and often stating) that they are mostly a group of undereducated racist hicks and rubes. I think one of the most important things the Democrats have to do is to ACKNOWLEDGE THEM - tell them that their voices count, that they are Americans (if possibly flawed ones) just as we are, and genuinely and humbly accept that at least SOME of their anger and grievances are legitimate.

Imagine that Bernie Sanders or AOC - who are both "preaching" to crowds that include both Dems and MAGAs - actually openly said something like: "And we acknowledge and hear our fellow Americans on the MAGA side. We hear and acknowledge your anger and grievances. And even if no Democrat ever gets your vote, we will NOT ignore you or reject your voices. All of us are Americans, and only by working to lessen the division between us can we beat the true "common enemies" that are the billionaire class and transnational corporations."

And they can add, "Democrats and MAGA members have more "enemies" in common than we generally acknowledge. Not just billionaires, oligarchs and corporate America. But the "Bigs" - Big Pharma, Big Agra, Big Oil, Big Health, Big Real Estate, etc. These and others are hurting ALL Americans, no matter what Party or political ideology they follow. But the only way we can beat them is to do so as a unified nation. The division and polarization between us was created by those who WANT us divided - who WANT us fighting each other instead of them. We know that MAGA moms and dads rely as much on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid as Democratic ones. So let us ALL fight to protect those things - for all of us. We know that MAGA members support our military, and particularly our veterans. So let's ALL fight to protect those vets. We know that the tariffs are disproportionately adversely affecting farmers - the heartland of America, which is heavily populated by MAGA members - so let us all fight to help make things easier for you. We know that the overwhelming majority of MAGA members are peace-loving, patriotic Americans who love our country. So let's throw off the phony, manufactured divisions that have us fighting each other instead of our common enemies, and say with one voice that we support Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, veterans and others."

Imagine the power of an acknowledgement like that to people who have consistently stated that they feel ignored! Imagine the power of ACTIVELY and VERBALLY making a REAL attempt to at least ease the polarization, and get more people acting together. ("Hug a MAGA/libtard today!")

This is the one thing no Democrat has EVER attempted, particularly not openly and verbally. I have NEVER heard a Democratic representative openly acknowledge MAGA members. I hear euphemisms ("We are all Americans. I will be representative/voice for all my constituents,"

etc.) But I have never heard anyone make even the slightest attempt to lessen the division and polarization by actually "addressing" and acknowledging MAGA members and their grievances.

Again, this may not earn a single vote for a Democrat from a MAGA member. And many MAGA members may be too deeply entrenched in culture war issues to care (though even some THEM might be "dislodged" by something like this). But not even TRYING to reach them is not an effective strategy. And Ignoring, dismissing and insulting them is an even LESS effective strategy.

Mr. Kasparov - you have made many comments about "siphoning off" those MAGA members who are not as deeply entrenched as the "25%." But I think we can do better than that. And I don't think we as a nation are going to get back to anything resembling "normalcy" (even without Trump & Co.) if we DON'T make these kinds of attempts to ease the (phony and manufactured) division and polarization between the Democrats and MAGA members.

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