People in power must be held accountable for their decisions and actions. It is fair to disagree and to comment negatively on things they say, but to demand that Fauci and OAC be held “accountable” for having expressed opinions you dislike is Orwellian. What is the “accountability” — must they write confessions of error? Engage in public struggle sessions where they criticize themselves? The people actually in power are madly selling this country out and grifting with both hands and a steam-shovel and you’re spending your time on what a retired doc and a minor back-bencher in the minority party said that that you disliked, and demanding that they be “accountable” to you for it.
The wisest take on Fauci I have read. And it’s not just on the lab origin question. The underlying issue is public scrutiny of gain of function research and our society’s assessment of the benefits versus the risks. I see wisdom nowhere on this deeper question.
Fauci is a reminder of a simple principle: Republicans will make villains, and they'll make a villain out of anyone. They will use their massive, well-funded hate machine to force it on you. They'll do it so thoroughly that even those who stood up to dictators in the past will be forced to play along to avoid being lumped in with them. It's a strategic move - sacrifice a pawn to avoid being trampled by the king.
Standing for freedom and decency, especially for the downtrodden and spat upon, especially if you ask the powerful to make small sacrifices, will make you powerful enemies. Get used to being the villain. In a morally bankrupt society, the decent are the villains. Fauci, AOC, etc. should embrace that instead of hiding.
Ely, I be honest with you in saying that your words sound like you don't trust any solid scientific source. The Covid vaccine was a great gift of global science because the life-saving data is overwhelming in support. Conspiracy theories are a dead-end street. There are experts you can trust.
> [Fauci] assumed that Americans wanted false reassurances when what they really wanted was honesty.
I'm not sure I agree with you that Fauci was wrong. The scientists who stood up and said "we don't know" got either pilloried or papered over. People wanted answers badly, and if they didn't get them from elected officials, they pretty explicitly turned to people who manufactured them even if they weren't accurate.
With all due respect Mr Kasparov, how about you investigate the vaccine industry instead of making blanket statements about RFK Jr being an anti vaxer. The Covid 19 mRNA shots have killed and maimed more than any other medical product. Reputable doctors know the consequences of what was done to humanity with these shots and worst, mandating them.
We know that they were neither safe nor effective. They didn’t even stop transmission.
You, from the Soviet Union, of all people, should be appalled by the medical tyranny that was foisted on people.
Ana, "honest and truthful" is so easy to say long after the black death of Covid killed over a million Americans. And we had to figure it out on the fly. To protect life in the time of Trump is to be in the deep woods with a deranged president. Everyone saw it and didn't know how to deal with him. We're still in the deep woods with him.
People in power must be held accountable for their decisions and actions. It is fair to disagree and to comment negatively on things they say, but to demand that Fauci and OAC be held “accountable” for having expressed opinions you dislike is Orwellian. What is the “accountability” — must they write confessions of error? Engage in public struggle sessions where they criticize themselves? The people actually in power are madly selling this country out and grifting with both hands and a steam-shovel and you’re spending your time on what a retired doc and a minor back-bencher in the minority party said that that you disliked, and demanding that they be “accountable” to you for it.
This is the most reasonable and intelligent take I've read on the whole situation. Thank you for being the voice of reason.
The wisest take on Fauci I have read. And it’s not just on the lab origin question. The underlying issue is public scrutiny of gain of function research and our society’s assessment of the benefits versus the risks. I see wisdom nowhere on this deeper question.
Fauci is a reminder of a simple principle: Republicans will make villains, and they'll make a villain out of anyone. They will use their massive, well-funded hate machine to force it on you. They'll do it so thoroughly that even those who stood up to dictators in the past will be forced to play along to avoid being lumped in with them. It's a strategic move - sacrifice a pawn to avoid being trampled by the king.
Standing for freedom and decency, especially for the downtrodden and spat upon, especially if you ask the powerful to make small sacrifices, will make you powerful enemies. Get used to being the villain. In a morally bankrupt society, the decent are the villains. Fauci, AOC, etc. should embrace that instead of hiding.
Ely, I be honest with you in saying that your words sound like you don't trust any solid scientific source. The Covid vaccine was a great gift of global science because the life-saving data is overwhelming in support. Conspiracy theories are a dead-end street. There are experts you can trust.
> [Fauci] assumed that Americans wanted false reassurances when what they really wanted was honesty.
I'm not sure I agree with you that Fauci was wrong. The scientists who stood up and said "we don't know" got either pilloried or papered over. People wanted answers badly, and if they didn't get them from elected officials, they pretty explicitly turned to people who manufactured them even if they weren't accurate.
With all due respect Mr Kasparov, how about you investigate the vaccine industry instead of making blanket statements about RFK Jr being an anti vaxer. The Covid 19 mRNA shots have killed and maimed more than any other medical product. Reputable doctors know the consequences of what was done to humanity with these shots and worst, mandating them.
We know that they were neither safe nor effective. They didn’t even stop transmission.
You, from the Soviet Union, of all people, should be appalled by the medical tyranny that was foisted on people.
The solution is for people to be honest and truthful, a tall order at all times and now more than ever, since we are in the ‘post-truth’ era.
Ana, "honest and truthful" is so easy to say long after the black death of Covid killed over a million Americans. And we had to figure it out on the fly. To protect life in the time of Trump is to be in the deep woods with a deranged president. Everyone saw it and didn't know how to deal with him. We're still in the deep woods with him.